The following note came in a discussion at the Heartbook Clubhouse. We thought readers might find it of interest: Sushuri-chei wrote: "For example, if you see a ghost walking with her knees at floor level, or a foot above the ground, you can be sure that research will discover that that is where the floor level was at the time the revenant’s human component was alive." We know this because of the work of psychic research societies which have been gathering and collating evidence from haunted places for over a century. They work in the approved "scientific" manner diligently gathering and recording evidence and collating it. None of this counts for anything in the eyes of the scientific establishment for a variety of excuses, such as "you can't reproduce it in a laboratory" (like hurricanes and black holes, you mean?) There is actually no possible set of evidence that would be accepted as "scientific" because the subject of study itself goes against the scientistic mythos. Just as no studies that indicate the impossibility of transformist evolution (and there have been several) can be accepted. The the last line of defense against "dissident science" is an impregnable circular argument. The people carrying it out are not "real scientists" because they aren't part of an accredited university and aren't published in peer-reviewed academic journals. This argument is exactly equivalent to saying that an atheist's arguments are invalid because they haven't been approved by a committee of bishops. No accredited academic organization will - or dare - accept work that disturbs the established mythos. And if they did the opponents of the work that shows the evidence for ghosts or disproves that for evolution would quickly have another line of defense. "Oh that isn't a real University, it lost its accreditation last week". All societies are based on myths or story-pictures and feel the need to defend them. Scientism is the myth of current Telluria,